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You’re kinda missing the Frequent Flyer Vintage Bat And Witch Halloween Party T-Shirt point, here. These arguments and arguments like them have generated a lot of philosophical discourse. It’s non-trivial (but definitely doable, I think) to disarm them, particularly the argument from contingency, which requires some actual philosophical legwork to be done beyond “nope, dismissed.” I’m not sure where the individual you responded to got these versions, but they’re worded a bit differently than I’ve seen them before. Imagine dismissing over 2000 years of debate by the smartest minds in the world that way. r/iamverysmart Have a little humility and recognize that maybe philosophy has something to say, and maybe you need to study it before you can understand it. We don’t dismiss chemistry out of hand based on some internet summary. We expect to have to spend years (possibly decades) studying any science before we will be able to make meaningful contributions or even fully understand the higher level concepts, but when it’s philosophy suddenly everyone is an expert. These arguments weren’t written in English, and many of the words don’t translate well. 

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